User:Appeal Draft-i-ban

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See also User:Appeal Draft Unblock

After sending User:Appeal Draft Unblock and a successful unblock ask ArbCom:


 * "Now that I am unblocked, I want to appeal the i-ban. Is it legitimate to appeal the sanctions that I was given at AE by going to ArbCom? If I appeal in this way can I talk about the editor I have an i-ban against in that appeal?"

If they answer 'Yes' then you are goood to go to send this appeal.

If they answer 'No' then the original combined one stage appeal would never have succeeded anyway.

This avoids ALL RISK OF A SITE-BAN, and has FAR MORE CHANCE OF SUCCESS than a one stage combined i-ban and unblock.

Red text sections referring to the other editor would breach the i-ban if this is not accepted as a valid way to appeal

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This is a Request for arbitration on my closed AE appeal case. I ask for the one-way i-ban to be removed. This is on the basis of procedural irregularities in the AE action. If lifting the i-ban is not acceptable I ask for it to be extended to a two-way i-ban on the same basis.

It is my understanding that in appropriate circumstances, ArbCom can override AE decisions. I am asking you to lift both sanctions on the basis of procedural irregularities.

The original one month block and the i-ban were imposed during a topic ban appeal submitted at the proper time. I was covered by WP:TBANEX. I checked before the appeal started and the guidelines had not changed, so I was permitted to talk about the banned topic when relevant to my appeal. Admins could override TBANEX. However when I asked about requirements when I was unblocked, last time this was discussed, no addition restrictions were imposed.

Goldenring, was under the impression that I had been ordered to never contest the topic ban. The background here is that I disputed the evidence in February 2016 between t-ban appeals. I thought this acceptable at the time, due to an example involving the other editor during their prior t-ban in September 2015. Thryduulf said that what I did was a t-ban violation. In the sanction that followed I was ordered not to disruptively relitigate, presumably referring to what I just did. I have kept to this requirement. I have however presented my evidence in every MoS topic ban appeal to date. Nobody has said I can't do this, for instance, in December 2016, ArbCom wrote:

"The Committee notes that Darkfrog24 disputes some elements of the original AE filings"

I was strongly recommended to focus my appeal on my positive contributions. I was not told that it was a sanctionable offence to ask the admins once more to check my evidence that I told the truth.

Both sanctions were imposed only because of the appeal itself, as all my editing in the six months leading up to the appeal was well outside of MoS, including talk page activity. As for the i-ban, I didn't talk to the other editor at any time during the six months I was unblocked.

In addition NeilN referred to the notice at the head of the page which suggests the sanctions were imposed for the appeal itself

If I must not discuss these matters in future topic ban appeals, please just say so, plainly, as a requirement. There is no need to impose a one-way i-ban to ensure this.

If lifting the i-ban is not acceptable, this is a request to turn it into a two-way i-ban. As a supporting reason, only two weeks after the appeal, the editor I now have a one-way i-ban against pinged me in a debate in my t-banned area. He knew I was indef blocked and with a one-way i-ban against him. Also, previously, on several occasions he has tried to talk to me or about me between appeals, although I have asked him not to. See.

Although I wish to have the i-ban lifted altogether, I can work with a two-way i-ban if it is the only option. It would simplify the next t-ban appeal as I would not be permitted to talk about the accusations any more, if that is the requirement. It would also be useful after that when I return to editing in MoS. I would still be able to take part in RfC's and discussions that the other editor takes part in, we just would not be permitted to talk to each other or about each other, or revert each others edits. I would be fine with that.

Please ask if you need more information.